Once again, this is an IM that has given me inspiration concerning my dream to become a jock. Spelling is corrected mostly because I hate having a spell checker tell me it's wrong.
This IM took place on Monday, May 31, 2010 [Memorial Day]. Warning: this is long.
T2: Hey dude, I got some more info on what was done to Jason.
T2: It is so simple I can't figure out how to do it.
Ox: Hi, dude.
T2: I got some more info on Jason's reprogramming.
Ox: Tell, tell ... *lust* *lust*
T2: The concept is so simple.
Ox: The concept is simple but the execution is hard?
T2: He is not dumb at all.
Ox: It's an act?
T2: No, it's not an act. He has a small list of things that require his immediate attention -- all the time.
T2: To all intents and purposes he is dumb as cum.
Ox: He can only focus on certain things?
T2: Because he now has only simple needs.
T2: You know, something like eat, sex, drink. Each one is set at a high level of priority.
T2: So he is trapped servicing these simple needs all the time.
Ox: And all other needs are excluded from needs?
T2: Yes.
Ox: Fuck, that's brilliant!
T2: It's training and hypnosis and brainwashing.
T2: He can't read because it takes away from his needs.
T2: Driving is almost too much multitasking for him to handle.
T2: It's sort of like a PC running at 99 % of capacity.
T2: So he can't hold both driving and the destination in his mind at the same time.
T2: It is so kewl!
T2: And he's in a blissful state.
T2: It is brilliant and all his mind is used up.
Ox: Let's see ... the list includes eating, sleeping, working out, buying groceries, and maybe paying bills.
T2: No, he is now a mooch.
Ox: Totally focused on what matters to him and no extra brainpower to use on other things.
T2: Yes.
T2: No apartment; he just doesn't worry about it.
T2: Wow.
Ox: Damn, that's so fucking simple.
Ox: Wow!
Ox: I'm impressed!
T2: So am I and he seems so happy.
T2: So happy.
T2: So stupid and dull and focused and happy.
Ox: Of course he is. There's no extra brainpower to devote to worrying.
T2: Yep.
Ox: I want it.
T2: Me too.
T2: It also means in emergencies he can be smart.
Ox: Ahhh? Great!
T2: And then automatically become dumb again.
Ox: In an emergency he can devote everything to the emergency?
Ox: Like a Mom who lifts a car off her kid, but she couldn't do that normally?
T2: Yep.
Ox: Just in the emergency?
T2: Yep.
Ox: So, there has to be some sort of monitor in his head saying an emergency exists?
T2: No, it's built into the hardware.
T2: That is the beauty of it.
T2: Emergencies make you drop everything.
Ox: So I guess you are smart till the emergency is over ...
Ox: ... and then you are dumb again?
T2: Yep.
T2: Jason is a bit too much of a party boi for my taste.
T2: But, hey, I'll take it.
T2: Then you go meet your need and go party or whatever.
Ox: Now the big question: who did it?
T2: A farmer type ...
Ox: ... and I detest gardening....
T2: ... with a Ph.D in brain chemistry.
T2: Vermont is strange.
Ox: Did he use any of his brain chemistry knowledge to help cause the change?
T2: I have no way of knowing since I have not talked to him.
T2: I am afraid that if this was offered to me I'd take it.
Ox: So would I and I''m not afraid.
T2: Right....
T2: You'd become one of the dumb asses who picked on you in school.
Ox: Yes !!! When can we start?
T2: I have no idea.
Ox: How can we start?
T2: I need to find out the particulars.
Ox: Sounds like some simple hypnosis programming.
T2: It helped that Jason was on the verge of a nervous breakdown ... I think.
Ox: I can sympathize. I went through the same thing when i was taking care of Mom 24/7 ...
Ox: ... before she was admitted to a personal care home with Alzheimers'
Ox: I became a mental and physical wreck taking care of her 24/7 for a few years ... with no time off.
T2: Jason essentially agreed to become this guy's slave for two years.
Ox: Hmmm ... slavery is good for something after all. :-D
T2: Jason went in a brilliant money manager and came out a painfully slow stupid snowboarder boi.
T2: It's so kewl!
T2: He was at the end of his rope. It is a way of committing suicide without killing yourself.
Ox: It can't be painful.
T2: It sure could be.
Ox: There's not enough brain cells left for him to process pain.
T2: No, but it's painful to the rest of us.
T2: You must have met someone so stupid or self absorbed that people around him visibly lost IQ points ...
Ox: The fact that he lost them is all that counts.
T2: He is happy ...
T2: ... or at least think he is.
Ox: As I said, that's all that counts.
T2: He will never accomplish anything ...
T2: ... never own anything ....
Ox: In this case, perception = reality.
T2: He can't think.
Ox: Since he can't think, he's happy and content.
T2: No time left for anything except party, mooch, muscles, and so on.
Ox: And sex.
T2: Sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll, dude.
Ox: Damn, this is making me horny. Correction: Damn, I'm horny.
T2: Geesh, I talked to him last night and I started to talk like him, dude.
T2: He is contagious.
Ox: Being around him dumbed you down?
T2: Well, sort of.
T2: It is so nice to find someone who is happy.
Ox: Yeah. My ambition in life is to be dumb and happy.
Ox: Does he smoke?
T2: Geesh, you and your smoking fetish.
T2: Would you mind if you ended up stupid and not smoking?
Ox: Well, smoking Marlboros is my only really bad habit and I worked hard to get addicted.
Ox: I'd rather be stupid and smoking.
T2: You need a cigar fetish.
Ox: Cigars are too expensive ... at least the good ones ...
T2: Then I could not stand to be around you.
Ox: ... even at internet discount sites. [ for example: http://www.thompsoncigars.com/ ]
Ox: one bundle of cigars [normally 20] = one carton of cigarettes [200 total] [about $ 50.00 each]
T2: I am a little worried that the Ph.D farmer took pity on him and did this all on the fly ...
T2: ... and it can't be easily reproduced.
Ox: Why not?
T2: You know chefs; some of them just toss things together ...
T2: ... and they sometimes come out with a dish that they can't reproduce even though they want to.
T2: It may have been for Jason's own good.
Ox: Damn, I want this so much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T2: You'd love Jason and be totally frustrated by him.
Ox: Why?
T2: He can't keep appointments.
Ox: I'm normally late for my appointments, anyway.
T2: I don';t think he's capable of reading.
Ox: Well, I won't be either when this happens to me.
T2: He literally gets a headache trying to read.
Ox: Is he a top or a bottom?
T2: An aggressive top, I believe.
Ox: Wonderful! I'm a bottom!
T2: So am I.
Ox: *sigh* So is everybody else I know.
T2: Everybody wants to be owned, controlled, and be dumb.
T2: Jason isn't.
Ox: He wants to own, control, and is dumb?
T2: No, he just wants what he wants when he wants it and can't be bothered to be controlled.
Ox: Let me think ... there has to be a way to reproduce this.
T2: Geesh, dude ... he was a top level money manager. Think about it.
T2: He was dominate.
T2: Competitive.
T2: You can't change that basic drive, just redirect it.
Ox: Yeah. I never wanted to be amid-level (if that) person in the work force.
Ox: I hate paperwork and especially detest filling out forms.
T2: I just don't want to be in charge ...
Ox: Likewise.
Ox: I want a job where I don't have to fill out paperwork.
T2: ... unless I get to run the whole thing and can order people to do all the paperwork.
Ox: Sorry to break the bad news, but you still have to read all the paperwork everyone else fills out ...
Ox: ... and approve all of it.
T2: NO, I'd hire someone else to do that.
T2: And go play golf (ugh)!
Ox: Golf? My Dad liked it; I didn't.
Ox: My opinion of golf mirrors the title of one golf book: A good walk spoiled.
T2: Yep. Me too.
T2: I have no idea how to reproduce this.
T2: Well, I have some ideas, but no idea of how to carry them out.
Ox: Hypnosis to center attention on a few things and make all the rest unimportant?
Ox: We need to come up with what needs to be included in the list of priorities.
Ox: My list includes -- so far:
Ox: Eat.
Ox: Sleep.
Ox: Work out.
Ox: Smoke.
Ox: Party.
Ox: All the rest unimportant but the list becomes total obsession
T2: I think someone else has to at least do the finishing touches.
T2: Ah, you realize you'd be smoking much more if that is one of your interests.
Ox: And what's wrong with that?
T2: Nothing.
Ox: I thought not.
T2: I can do the smoking obsession thing as well; I have it.
Ox: Good.
Ox: I need to start watching that smoking file again to reinforce my habit some more.
T2: Dude, this is not an obsession Jason has. It appears to be much simpler than that.
T2: More like: I am hungry; I need to eat.
Ox: His interests have been narrowed to a simple few?
T2: Yes.
T2: And made so that is all he has time for.
T2: He is a party boi.
Ox: His interests have narrowed to ....
T2: And nothing more. Nothing else.
Ox: All other interests are secondary.
T2: No, no!
T2: They do not exist.
Ox: Only what contributes to these interests is of interest to him.
T2: No secondary interests.
T2: Just a few high level priority ones.
T2: Except for the emergency stipulation ... and that happens in hardware.
Ox: That's wired in?
T2: Yes.
Ox: [light dawning] So no provision has to be made for it!
T2: Right!
Ox: That makes it even easier.
T2: You can suppress that reaction by training ...
T2: ... but who needs to make this more complicated?
T2: It is so simple!
Ox: True.
Ox: We should be able to figure this out.
Ox: All you have are a few things that mean the world to you ...
Ox: ... and you can't even think of anything else.
Ox: Wonderful! Simplicity itself!
T2: How do y9ou avoid making a non-social robot?
T2: I mean, if you are dumb, it would be nice if you could have friends.
Ox: Include talking to others about interests in the priorities.
Ox: Make sports an interest?
T2: No, no, no. Not sports. That is too general and you can think too much.
T2: Jason has no finances.
T2: He is a mooch.
T2: He can barely go to work and stack boxes.
Ox: After my grandmother had a stroke, my parents had the court declare her incompetent.
Ox: The court appointed them guardians. They took over her finances so she wouldn't lose anything.
Ox: Have Jason declared incompetent ...
Ox: ... and others could run his finances.
T2: Kewl.
T2: Jason is homeless.
Ox: He has no place to live?
T2: No.
Ox: Homeless.
Ox: How about a shelter?
T2: But his sister lives nearby and everyone loves him ...
T2: ... so he doesn't sleep in the street unless it is too much effort to go there.
Ox: Does he care?
T2: No.
T2: Shelter has zero percent priority in his mind.
Ox: Okay.
T2: Shelter gets in the way of [snow/skate] boarding, ...
T2: Being muscled, ...
T2: Eat, sleep train, ...
T2: Getting mindless sex ...
Ox: Anything else?
T2: Partying.
Ox: Eat, sleep, train, sex, party.
Ox: Smoking?
T2: No. I suppose I could probably convince him it would keep him from being fat.
Ox: It does suppress appetite.
Ox: Try it.
T2: Don't worry about where you will sleep ...
T2: ... until you need to sleep.
T2: Don't worry about food until you are hungry.
T2: Get it? It's so simple....
T2: Nothing else ....
Ox: I need to take medication so that is a necessity.
Ox: Maybe that could be a minor secondary thing ... or included in training.
T2: No future.
T2: No planning.
T2: No money.
T2: No worries.
Ox: No cares, no worries.
T2: Yep.
Ox: Too dumb to worry.
T2: Jason literally cannot worry; everything is in use, nothing is left to use to worry.
T2: It's so simple.
Ox: Yeah....
T2: The problem is: how do you box yourself in like that?
T2: It's not normal; it's an artificial construct.
T2: I don't think you can complete this noose yourself.
T2: I think the last brick has to be put in place by someone else.
T2: But it's just a gut feeling.
Ox: Damn, we should be able to figure out a hypnosis program for this.
Ox: Make a hypnosis tape of all permitted subjects you can think about.
Ox: Make everything else off limits.
T2: You are not getting ti.
T2: Nothing is off limits.
Ox: Explain.
T2: Just this: These priorities are all you have. Nothing else.
T2: Choose the following nine [or whatever number] interests. That's it. That's all.
Ox: Okay, your only interests are:
Ox: a, b, c, d, ..., i.
T2: You got it.
T2: You are kept so busy by these vital things that, for example, when you try to read ...
T2: ... it sorta comes in slowly.
T2: He can rad big words; he is just reading them one character at a time real slowly.
Ox: Ahhhh ....
T2: So you are stupid.
T2: You know ... slow.
Ox: Yeah.
T2: Not because you are retarded but because you are all used up.
Ox: Interesting way to do it.
T2: Yes, brilliant.
Ox: Truly brilliant!
T2: And, as far as I can see, permanent.
Ox: Irreversible?
T2: And when you get the emergency response system kicking, guess what?
T2: You are smart again.
Ox: It kicks in, and when the emergency is over, it stops, and you're dumb again.
T2: Well, if you went to jail and could not do you interests, it might break down.
Ox: Even in jail, you can eat, sleep, and lift weights.
Ox: And food and shelter is supplied.
Ox: And sex is there.
Ox: So even in jail you'd be dumb.
T2: Jason is a boarder; that is not supplied. Snowboards, skateboards,....
Ox: Oh, right....
T2: Jason has one big problem: he is not limited by the legality of something.
T2: He does not notice that he is doing something illegal till the next day.
Ox: He is so dumb ... how is he going to commit a crime?
Ox: Run a red light?
Ox: Forget to pay for food?
T2: Oh, yeah. Restaurants are too complicated for him.
T2: Dude, he is a mooch.
Ox: Even Mickey D's is too complicated?
T2: Yes.
T2: It is so amazing.
T2: And, dude, it is not an act.
Ox: I can deal with this.
Ox: Damn, I want this!
Ox: ... so bad!
T2: No one could do this for an entire day and not slip up.
Ox: We gotta figure out how to do this!
T2: Yes.
T2: It must work like compulsive disorders.
Ox: Something like NLP [NeuroLinguistic Processing] but in reverse ...
Ox: ... NLP is used to eliminate bad habits; this would induce them.
Ox: You say you think it has to be put in place and/or activated by someone else?
T2: Someone has to hammer the final nail and seal the window up.
T2: I can't see how you could close that last window yourself.
Ox: Yes ... like trying to tie yourself up.
T2: I don';t even think Jason can tell me what was done.
T2: He can tell em what it feels like.
T2: He says when he tries to think it is like a fly buzzing and he has to swat it ...
T2: ... and he loses the thought.
Ox: Damn, the more I hear of this the more I like it.
Ox: Can Jason tell you who did it?
T2: Yes.
T2: Well ... sort of.
Ox: Will he tell you?
T2: Well he worked for this farmer and ended up this way.
Ox: Damn, want to find out this farmer's name?
T2: I know who it is.
Ox: Who is it ... and will he do it to us?
T2: I just have to figure out how to ask him.
Ox: How about, "I knew Jason before he changed. I want to be like he is now. Can you help me?"
Ox: "And I also have a good friend who wants the same thing. Could you help him too, please?
[This is only a partial typescript of the IM. There is much more to come....]
Ox: How did you find all this out?
This IM took place on Monday, May 31, 2010 [Memorial Day]. Warning: this is long.
T2: Hey dude, I got some more info on what was done to Jason.
T2: It is so simple I can't figure out how to do it.
Ox: Hi, dude.
T2: I got some more info on Jason's reprogramming.
Ox: Tell, tell ... *lust* *lust*
T2: The concept is so simple.
Ox: The concept is simple but the execution is hard?
T2: He is not dumb at all.
Ox: It's an act?
T2: No, it's not an act. He has a small list of things that require his immediate attention -- all the time.
T2: To all intents and purposes he is dumb as cum.
Ox: He can only focus on certain things?
T2: Because he now has only simple needs.
T2: You know, something like eat, sex, drink. Each one is set at a high level of priority.
T2: So he is trapped servicing these simple needs all the time.
Ox: And all other needs are excluded from needs?
T2: Yes.
Ox: Fuck, that's brilliant!
T2: It's training and hypnosis and brainwashing.
T2: He can't read because it takes away from his needs.
T2: Driving is almost too much multitasking for him to handle.
T2: It's sort of like a PC running at 99 % of capacity.
T2: So he can't hold both driving and the destination in his mind at the same time.
T2: It is so kewl!
T2: And he's in a blissful state.
T2: It is brilliant and all his mind is used up.
Ox: Let's see ... the list includes eating, sleeping, working out, buying groceries, and maybe paying bills.
T2: No, he is now a mooch.
Ox: Totally focused on what matters to him and no extra brainpower to use on other things.
T2: Yes.
T2: No apartment; he just doesn't worry about it.
T2: Wow.
Ox: Damn, that's so fucking simple.
Ox: Wow!
Ox: I'm impressed!
T2: So am I and he seems so happy.
T2: So happy.
T2: So stupid and dull and focused and happy.
Ox: Of course he is. There's no extra brainpower to devote to worrying.
T2: Yep.
Ox: I want it.
T2: Me too.
T2: It also means in emergencies he can be smart.
Ox: Ahhh? Great!
T2: And then automatically become dumb again.
Ox: In an emergency he can devote everything to the emergency?
Ox: Like a Mom who lifts a car off her kid, but she couldn't do that normally?
T2: Yep.
Ox: Just in the emergency?
T2: Yep.
Ox: So, there has to be some sort of monitor in his head saying an emergency exists?
T2: No, it's built into the hardware.
T2: That is the beauty of it.
T2: Emergencies make you drop everything.
Ox: So I guess you are smart till the emergency is over ...
Ox: ... and then you are dumb again?
T2: Yep.
T2: Jason is a bit too much of a party boi for my taste.
T2: But, hey, I'll take it.
T2: Then you go meet your need and go party or whatever.
Ox: Now the big question: who did it?
T2: A farmer type ...
Ox: ... and I detest gardening....
T2: ... with a Ph.D in brain chemistry.
T2: Vermont is strange.
Ox: Did he use any of his brain chemistry knowledge to help cause the change?
T2: I have no way of knowing since I have not talked to him.
T2: I am afraid that if this was offered to me I'd take it.
Ox: So would I and I''m not afraid.
T2: Right....
T2: You'd become one of the dumb asses who picked on you in school.
Ox: Yes !!! When can we start?
T2: I have no idea.
Ox: How can we start?
T2: I need to find out the particulars.
Ox: Sounds like some simple hypnosis programming.
T2: It helped that Jason was on the verge of a nervous breakdown ... I think.
Ox: I can sympathize. I went through the same thing when i was taking care of Mom 24/7 ...
Ox: ... before she was admitted to a personal care home with Alzheimers'
Ox: I became a mental and physical wreck taking care of her 24/7 for a few years ... with no time off.
T2: Jason essentially agreed to become this guy's slave for two years.
Ox: Hmmm ... slavery is good for something after all. :-D
T2: Jason went in a brilliant money manager and came out a painfully slow stupid snowboarder boi.
T2: It's so kewl!
T2: He was at the end of his rope. It is a way of committing suicide without killing yourself.
Ox: It can't be painful.
T2: It sure could be.
Ox: There's not enough brain cells left for him to process pain.
T2: No, but it's painful to the rest of us.
T2: You must have met someone so stupid or self absorbed that people around him visibly lost IQ points ...
Ox: The fact that he lost them is all that counts.
T2: He is happy ...
T2: ... or at least think he is.
Ox: As I said, that's all that counts.
T2: He will never accomplish anything ...
T2: ... never own anything ....
Ox: In this case, perception = reality.
T2: He can't think.
Ox: Since he can't think, he's happy and content.
T2: No time left for anything except party, mooch, muscles, and so on.
Ox: And sex.
T2: Sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll, dude.
Ox: Damn, this is making me horny. Correction: Damn, I'm horny.
T2: Geesh, I talked to him last night and I started to talk like him, dude.
T2: He is contagious.
Ox: Being around him dumbed you down?
T2: Well, sort of.
T2: It is so nice to find someone who is happy.
Ox: Yeah. My ambition in life is to be dumb and happy.
Ox: Does he smoke?
T2: Geesh, you and your smoking fetish.
T2: Would you mind if you ended up stupid and not smoking?
Ox: Well, smoking Marlboros is my only really bad habit and I worked hard to get addicted.
Ox: I'd rather be stupid and smoking.
T2: You need a cigar fetish.
Ox: Cigars are too expensive ... at least the good ones ...
T2: Then I could not stand to be around you.
Ox: ... even at internet discount sites. [ for example: http://www.thompsoncigars.com/ ]
Ox: one bundle of cigars [normally 20] = one carton of cigarettes [200 total] [about $ 50.00 each]
T2: I am a little worried that the Ph.D farmer took pity on him and did this all on the fly ...
T2: ... and it can't be easily reproduced.
Ox: Why not?
T2: You know chefs; some of them just toss things together ...
T2: ... and they sometimes come out with a dish that they can't reproduce even though they want to.
T2: It may have been for Jason's own good.
Ox: Damn, I want this so much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T2: You'd love Jason and be totally frustrated by him.
Ox: Why?
T2: He can't keep appointments.
Ox: I'm normally late for my appointments, anyway.
T2: I don';t think he's capable of reading.
Ox: Well, I won't be either when this happens to me.
T2: He literally gets a headache trying to read.
Ox: Is he a top or a bottom?
T2: An aggressive top, I believe.
Ox: Wonderful! I'm a bottom!
T2: So am I.
Ox: *sigh* So is everybody else I know.
T2: Everybody wants to be owned, controlled, and be dumb.
T2: Jason isn't.
Ox: He wants to own, control, and is dumb?
T2: No, he just wants what he wants when he wants it and can't be bothered to be controlled.
Ox: Let me think ... there has to be a way to reproduce this.
T2: Geesh, dude ... he was a top level money manager. Think about it.
T2: He was dominate.
T2: Competitive.
T2: You can't change that basic drive, just redirect it.
Ox: Yeah. I never wanted to be amid-level (if that) person in the work force.
Ox: I hate paperwork and especially detest filling out forms.
T2: I just don't want to be in charge ...
Ox: Likewise.
Ox: I want a job where I don't have to fill out paperwork.
T2: ... unless I get to run the whole thing and can order people to do all the paperwork.
Ox: Sorry to break the bad news, but you still have to read all the paperwork everyone else fills out ...
Ox: ... and approve all of it.
T2: NO, I'd hire someone else to do that.
T2: And go play golf (ugh)!
Ox: Golf? My Dad liked it; I didn't.
Ox: My opinion of golf mirrors the title of one golf book: A good walk spoiled.
T2: Yep. Me too.
T2: I have no idea how to reproduce this.
T2: Well, I have some ideas, but no idea of how to carry them out.
Ox: Hypnosis to center attention on a few things and make all the rest unimportant?
Ox: We need to come up with what needs to be included in the list of priorities.
Ox: My list includes -- so far:
Ox: Eat.
Ox: Sleep.
Ox: Work out.
Ox: Smoke.
Ox: Party.
Ox: All the rest unimportant but the list becomes total obsession
T2: I think someone else has to at least do the finishing touches.
T2: Ah, you realize you'd be smoking much more if that is one of your interests.
Ox: And what's wrong with that?
T2: Nothing.
Ox: I thought not.
T2: I can do the smoking obsession thing as well; I have it.
Ox: Good.
Ox: I need to start watching that smoking file again to reinforce my habit some more.
T2: Dude, this is not an obsession Jason has. It appears to be much simpler than that.
T2: More like: I am hungry; I need to eat.
Ox: His interests have been narrowed to a simple few?
T2: Yes.
T2: And made so that is all he has time for.
T2: He is a party boi.
Ox: His interests have narrowed to ....
T2: And nothing more. Nothing else.
Ox: All other interests are secondary.
T2: No, no!
T2: They do not exist.
Ox: Only what contributes to these interests is of interest to him.
T2: No secondary interests.
T2: Just a few high level priority ones.
T2: Except for the emergency stipulation ... and that happens in hardware.
Ox: That's wired in?
T2: Yes.
Ox: [light dawning] So no provision has to be made for it!
T2: Right!
Ox: That makes it even easier.
T2: You can suppress that reaction by training ...
T2: ... but who needs to make this more complicated?
T2: It is so simple!
Ox: True.
Ox: We should be able to figure this out.
Ox: All you have are a few things that mean the world to you ...
Ox: ... and you can't even think of anything else.
Ox: Wonderful! Simplicity itself!
T2: How do y9ou avoid making a non-social robot?
T2: I mean, if you are dumb, it would be nice if you could have friends.
Ox: Include talking to others about interests in the priorities.
Ox: Make sports an interest?
T2: No, no, no. Not sports. That is too general and you can think too much.
T2: Jason has no finances.
T2: He is a mooch.
T2: He can barely go to work and stack boxes.
Ox: After my grandmother had a stroke, my parents had the court declare her incompetent.
Ox: The court appointed them guardians. They took over her finances so she wouldn't lose anything.
Ox: Have Jason declared incompetent ...
Ox: ... and others could run his finances.
T2: Kewl.
T2: Jason is homeless.
Ox: He has no place to live?
T2: No.
Ox: Homeless.
Ox: How about a shelter?
T2: But his sister lives nearby and everyone loves him ...
T2: ... so he doesn't sleep in the street unless it is too much effort to go there.
Ox: Does he care?
T2: No.
T2: Shelter has zero percent priority in his mind.
Ox: Okay.
T2: Shelter gets in the way of [snow/skate] boarding, ...
T2: Being muscled, ...
T2: Eat, sleep train, ...
T2: Getting mindless sex ...
Ox: Anything else?
T2: Partying.
Ox: Eat, sleep, train, sex, party.
Ox: Smoking?
T2: No. I suppose I could probably convince him it would keep him from being fat.
Ox: It does suppress appetite.
Ox: Try it.
T2: Don't worry about where you will sleep ...
T2: ... until you need to sleep.
T2: Don't worry about food until you are hungry.
T2: Get it? It's so simple....
T2: Nothing else ....
Ox: I need to take medication so that is a necessity.
Ox: Maybe that could be a minor secondary thing ... or included in training.
T2: No future.
T2: No planning.
T2: No money.
T2: No worries.
Ox: No cares, no worries.
T2: Yep.
Ox: Too dumb to worry.
T2: Jason literally cannot worry; everything is in use, nothing is left to use to worry.
T2: It's so simple.
Ox: Yeah....
T2: The problem is: how do you box yourself in like that?
T2: It's not normal; it's an artificial construct.
T2: I don't think you can complete this noose yourself.
T2: I think the last brick has to be put in place by someone else.
T2: But it's just a gut feeling.
Ox: Damn, we should be able to figure out a hypnosis program for this.
Ox: Make a hypnosis tape of all permitted subjects you can think about.
Ox: Make everything else off limits.
T2: You are not getting ti.
T2: Nothing is off limits.
Ox: Explain.
T2: Just this: These priorities are all you have. Nothing else.
T2: Choose the following nine [or whatever number] interests. That's it. That's all.
Ox: Okay, your only interests are:
Ox: a, b, c, d, ..., i.
T2: You got it.
T2: You are kept so busy by these vital things that, for example, when you try to read ...
T2: ... it sorta comes in slowly.
T2: He can rad big words; he is just reading them one character at a time real slowly.
Ox: Ahhhh ....
T2: So you are stupid.
T2: You know ... slow.
Ox: Yeah.
T2: Not because you are retarded but because you are all used up.
Ox: Interesting way to do it.
T2: Yes, brilliant.
Ox: Truly brilliant!
T2: And, as far as I can see, permanent.
Ox: Irreversible?
T2: And when you get the emergency response system kicking, guess what?
T2: You are smart again.
Ox: It kicks in, and when the emergency is over, it stops, and you're dumb again.
T2: Well, if you went to jail and could not do you interests, it might break down.
Ox: Even in jail, you can eat, sleep, and lift weights.
Ox: And food and shelter is supplied.
Ox: And sex is there.
Ox: So even in jail you'd be dumb.
T2: Jason is a boarder; that is not supplied. Snowboards, skateboards,....
Ox: Oh, right....
T2: Jason has one big problem: he is not limited by the legality of something.
T2: He does not notice that he is doing something illegal till the next day.
Ox: He is so dumb ... how is he going to commit a crime?
Ox: Run a red light?
Ox: Forget to pay for food?
T2: Oh, yeah. Restaurants are too complicated for him.
T2: Dude, he is a mooch.
Ox: Even Mickey D's is too complicated?
T2: Yes.
T2: It is so amazing.
T2: And, dude, it is not an act.
Ox: I can deal with this.
Ox: Damn, I want this!
Ox: ... so bad!
T2: No one could do this for an entire day and not slip up.
Ox: We gotta figure out how to do this!
T2: Yes.
T2: It must work like compulsive disorders.
Ox: Something like NLP [NeuroLinguistic Processing] but in reverse ...
Ox: ... NLP is used to eliminate bad habits; this would induce them.
Ox: You say you think it has to be put in place and/or activated by someone else?
T2: Someone has to hammer the final nail and seal the window up.
T2: I can't see how you could close that last window yourself.
Ox: Yes ... like trying to tie yourself up.
T2: I don';t even think Jason can tell me what was done.
T2: He can tell em what it feels like.
T2: He says when he tries to think it is like a fly buzzing and he has to swat it ...
T2: ... and he loses the thought.
Ox: Damn, the more I hear of this the more I like it.
Ox: Can Jason tell you who did it?
T2: Yes.
T2: Well ... sort of.
Ox: Will he tell you?
T2: Well he worked for this farmer and ended up this way.
Ox: Damn, want to find out this farmer's name?
T2: I know who it is.
Ox: Who is it ... and will he do it to us?
T2: I just have to figure out how to ask him.
Ox: How about, "I knew Jason before he changed. I want to be like he is now. Can you help me?"
Ox: "And I also have a good friend who wants the same thing. Could you help him too, please?
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Ox: How did you find all this out?
